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infinitepoetess 54F
6332 posts
10/10/2023 8:38 am
The Game Changer Epiphany



Epiphany is a glorious feeling. I suppose that's why they give it such a spiritual sounding name. I had such a name hit me this morning in an A'HA forehead slapping way. And it could only be achieved by me having a submissive that wasn't involved in sex, imagine that.

Submissives typically do have character flaws that need management and guidance. This is the fuel that feeds the newly acquired Dominant. It keeps the Dominant actively engaged, while the submissive strives to meet the bar, and alter their negative behaviors' to a positive outcome. This continues on, throughout the relationship, as the dance we do. But, a Dom can only improve her so much, and then what do they do?

I finally figured out why my best friend, a widowed slave, and myself have moved onto a different phase in our journey. We no longer need that constant guidance and training. After 20+ years, it becomes trivial to two grown ass women. It is why the natural progression was to become more dominant, and explore those depths. To hone skills that were from the other side, allowed us both to continue to grow, and not become stagnant.

This is not to say, that certain dominant males could not achieve the position in modified form. However, the novice days are long gone, as are the chaotic lives, and people we used to be. Besides, I truly believe we make better dommes than we would have ever been, had we not submitted first. We've seen the whole puppet show, not just the players or the puppeteer. Walking in someone's shoes, makes all the difference in how you handle the road from then on.

Just my two cents

Song for this post
Old Enough - The Raconteurs with Ashley Monroe



infinitepoetess 54F
3499 posts
10/10/2023 8:40 am

You look pretty in your fancy dress
But I detect unhappiness
You never speak so I have to guess
You're not free.
There, maybe when you're old enough
You'll realize you're not so tough
And some days the seas get rough
And you'll see
You're too young to have it figured out
You think you know what you're talking about
You think it will all work itself out
But we'll see
When I was young I thought I knew
You probably think you know too
Do you? Well do you?
I was naive just like you
I thought I knew exactly what I wanted to do
Well, what's you gonna do?
And how have you gotten by so far
Without having a visible scar?
No one knows who you really are
They can't see
What's you gonna do (what's you gonna do)
What's you gonna do now
What's you gonna do (what's you gonna do)
What's you gonna do now
What's you gonna do (what's you gonna do)
What's you gonna do now
What's you gonna do (what's you gonna do)
What's you gonna do now
What's you gonna do now
The only way you'll ever learn a thing
Is to admit that you know absolutely nothing
Oh nothing
Think about this carefully
You might not get another chance to speak freely
Oh freely
Maybe when you're old enough
Maybe when you're old enough
Maybe when you're old enough
You're not free
You're not free


sissy_sally_69 54M
250 posts
10/10/2023 10:17 am

I know it may sound like old guard fantasy bs, but my personal belief is that a sub can grow into a Dominant, having experienced the "other side" be it temporary to have the experience of it, or longer term and grown into it.

Just my opinion, I may be wrong. I've been wrong before, it was a Tuesday


boh99 68M
3137 posts
10/10/2023 11:24 am

sometimes, it's a natural reaction to the other person. We slot in at the appropriate level.


drmgirl622 68F  
26062 posts
10/10/2023 2:43 pm

"We've seen the whole puppet show".......the show had a few good scenes but not enough for my liking.


rydermantel 69M
25046 posts
10/10/2023 11:41 pm

    Quoting sissy_sally_69:
    I know it may sound like old guard fantasy bs, but my personal belief is that a sub can grow into a Dominant, having experienced the "other side" be it temporary to have the experience of it, or longer term and grown into it.

    Just my opinion, I may be wrong. I've been wrong before, it was a Tuesday
I think you are correct.


Tckg12 69M
2465 posts
10/11/2023 4:03 am

I think you're 2 cents is worth a lot more.lol. i agree that a sub can can grow into a Domme because experiencing the other side of the coin (pun intended) open up an understanding of what a sub requires that an exclusive Domme may not fully understand. After all a sub and Domme have completely different mindsets


EvolvedEdge 57M
301 posts
10/22/2023 8:30 pm

They’re a very fortunate sub indeed who benefits from your experience. It’s not a path I was ever inclined to follow, but on a related note it’s worth mentioning that in some leather circles a period in service is still considered de riguer for a would-be top. The few big-letter-types I’ve personally known who traveled that path for a time give every indication of being some of the most consistent, thoughtful, empathetic and effective on taking up their left-of-the-slash mantle.


infinitepoetess 54F
3499 posts
10/22/2023 10:12 pm

    Quoting EvolvedEdge:
    They’re a very fortunate sub indeed who benefits from your experience. It’s not a path I was ever inclined to follow, but on a related note it’s worth mentioning that in some leather circles a period in service is still considered de riguer for a would-be top. The few big-letter-types I’ve personally known who traveled that path for a time give every indication of being some of the most consistent, thoughtful, empathetic and effective on taking up their left-of-the-slash mantle.
Those Doms who are naturally alpha and the cream of the crop will still illicit the submissive sides in those Dominas, That is where alpha-submissive concept solidified...
And that type of Dom, my friend, is you



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