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ExNameForUse 53F
4245 posts
1/18/2022 12:19 pm
Freedom

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ExNameForUse 53F
5764 posts
1/18/2022 12:20 pm

Care to share?


drmgirl622 68F  
26111 posts
1/18/2022 1:07 pm

My take on liberation is fairly simple. I worked hard until retirement and consequently the car is paid for and the house is paid for. Those two things were the gating items in my work life. Without having that it was hard to totally be free. My personal life is mine to lead as I choose, and I must say I've lead a pretty liberated life.


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 12:27 am:
Independancy is freedom. Even freedom of debts is a wonderful stroke of liberty. Maybe only then, when owning nothing to no one is when we are truly free to live a life freely and fully owning only oureselves to make that life as pleasurable as it can be.

hardtop4you 65M

1/18/2022 1:45 pm

Liberty is the right
to choose. Freedom
is a choice and for
some that choice is
to surrender power.
For those giving
another their power
is liberating.


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 12:18 am:
It does come to being able to choose, whatever that may be. It sure is a liberating feeling when you can make your choice

Keepitfun1861 63M

1/18/2022 2:29 pm

Freedom is also making sacrifices for your fellow man.


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 12:15 am:
It may be if you were given a free choice and you have chosen to make that sacrifise.

ridermantel 68M

1/18/2022 2:44 pm

Freedom to do what? To be free to go against conventional thinking on certain things can be liberating. Perhaps you can make a list and categorize them to narrow things down into specific groups.


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 12:14 am:
I did not want to put the frame and restrict anyone to express their own feeling of freedom. That itself would not be a free choice, but free to choose from offered options.
It was more like expressing your own belief on personal freedom, whatever that might be for you, and you only 😊

Will35 61M
396 posts
1/18/2022 3:17 pm

Freedom to do what we please sometimes means finding the right person to accept and desire matching acts.


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 12:10 am:
Why not, if having a matching partner will make someone feel free. We are all so different, that is why understanding of liberty and freedom is so different for each of us.

alwaysassertive 64M

1/18/2022 3:40 pm

It ain't easy living free. It means submission to no one, and I conform to nothing I don't want to.

If it means kicking the shit out of somebody that wants to control me or taking an ass beating because I'm standing up for myself then that's what I'm going to do.

As long as I can get back on a Harley Davidson and rid on. I'll be good to go.

People are so willing to do as they are told and not cause trouble. I say fuck that.

There you go for what it's worth.


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 12:07 am:
This all makes sense, AA, and I do pretty much agree with you on this topic.
But it does require guts to live by your own morals, and follow your own beliefs. To be free and act acordingly.

DancingDom 74M
22590 posts
1/18/2022 3:53 pm

Freedom isn't free.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


ExNameForUse replies on 1/18/2022 11:58 pm:
I agree with your statement, DD. There is a price for everything, maybe for freedom the highest, depending of course on what the stakes are.

brandygirasol 55T
9435 posts
1/18/2022 5:49 pm

Freedom to step out clubbing & partying 👠👠🍸🤪


ExNameForUse replies on 1/18/2022 11:56 pm:
Also true Brendy. I have never felt free enough to do that alone..

jenny14 75T  
90348 posts
1/18/2022 10:11 pm

Ex

What an interesting topic !

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From a terrific song :

"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose
Nothin', it ain't nothin' honey, if it ain't free
And feelin' good was easy, Lord, when he sang the blues
You know feelin' good was good enough for me
Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee"


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


ExNameForUse replies on 1/18/2022 11:51 pm:
Thank you, Jenny.
I also think it is an interesting topic and also very personal, as each individual can have their own sense and understanding what does it mean being free.. I hoped to see what do we here think of that 😊
Thank you for those lovely lyrics!

Artschoolgrad 47M
8721 posts
1/19/2022 5:59 am

an illusion i think


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 6:16 am:
Maybe we can never be absolutely free, so complete freedom as such can be seen as an illusion as well.
There is always something we depend on.
Or, is there if we decide and make it not to?

Raven_GB 63M
854 posts
1/19/2022 8:48 am

Freedom, broadly, must be the ability to do what you want, when you want without requiring anybody else's permission (within the law, of course). By that definition, nobody who loves (family, partner, friends) is truly free since these people must be considered, if they mean anything to us. To be truly free, perhaps you need to be alone and answerable to only yourself for your choices. What this means is that all interactions (that matter to us) restrict our freedoms, but that is a price we gladly pay.
On a moe materialistic basis, it probably means having the resources to do what you want when you want, without work and the costs getting in the way.


ExNameForUse replies on 1/19/2022 12:44 pm:
I wish I know to put my thoughts in order of words as you did here, Raven.
I really have nothing to add or withdraw here. As usual 😊
In terms of the topic, it seems that we are then rarely completely, yet willingly, free.

ridermantel 68M

2/28/2022 4:37 am

    Quoting ridermantel:
    Freedom to do what? To be free to go against conventional thinking on certain things can be liberating. Perhaps you can make a list and categorize them to narrow things down into specific groups.
I see that my conventional mind was at work here.

As you indicate, there should be no restrictions on freedom. Restrictions or categorizations only emphasize the lack of freedom. Freedom for each and every one of us is a unique thing, isn't it?


ExNameForUse replies on 2/28/2022 2:55 pm:
It absolutely is very personal and individual feeling of what freedom represents.
While in truth none of us is actually completely free.
I think Raven has put it perfectly in his comment.


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