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ExNameForUse 53F
4244 posts
5/14/2023 9:09 am
Trauma Bond

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ExNameForUse 53F
5764 posts
5/14/2023 9:31 am

I thought to write that not everything that looks like love is love... like, you know, sugar and salt... they look the same too... but their taste is completely different... and as I write this comment, I feel sadness... I have flesh backs of some days and moments from my past and I ... you know... even with the rational me knowing and understanding the facts, there is that part of me... that is and will remain a bit sad...


rondiri 65M
11180 posts
5/14/2023 9:43 am

everyone should know these


ExNameForUse replies on 5/14/2023 1:38 pm:
Absolutely!

brandygirasol 55T
9433 posts
5/14/2023 10:38 am

Dera Ex💋.... Basically I'm a loner so I don't really let anyone get close enough emotionally to create trauma for myself....knock on wood... Ha😏


ExNameForUse replies on 5/14/2023 1:38 pm:
Dear Brandy, you have saved yourself a lot of misery!

drmgirl622 68F  
26111 posts
5/14/2023 11:47 am

The cycle has to be broken so that true life/love can be realized.


ExNameForUse replies on 5/14/2023 11:51 pm:
It has to be broken.
Once it is, person can start with recovering and healing, and consquently findind joy, love or else in life again.

grywolf2 73M
3112 posts
5/14/2023 12:27 pm

That picture explains the issue but you are left shaking your head, having difficulty understanding how one falls into that quicksand.


ExNameForUse replies on 5/14/2023 1:43 pm:
It is a complex topic... and my intention is to post more about it, including as you mentioned who are perfect victims of narcissistics, and their desirable characteristics, how we got trapped in a narcissistic manipulative net... also how to break that trauma bond, or what are narcissists manipulative tactics...

BounD2capitulate 76M
118 posts
5/14/2023 10:40 pm

You have chosen an interesting topic, ENFU, but it is important to realize (and to make clear) that the “trauma bond” is a psychological syndrome that has a truly global or general incidence and relevance. Evidence of it can be seen in the population at large, but it will generally not stem from (or be the resulting effect of) any abusive or painful or fundamentally adversarial dynamic that one has volitionally or deliberately chosen to enter into or become a part of, initially, as is the case, which it could be said, we seem to be delicately sidestepping here by not making a more precise reference to the atypical and relatively marginalized context to which we wish, pointedly, to apply the phrase. We must not be indirect here. I think we would both agree that the more distinctive application of the phrase “trauma bond’--the one most relevant to our more immediate concerns–is the one adversely affecting a number of submissives– males and females– that have gotten much more than they ever expected when they chose or made their determination to submit willingly to a dom or domme for “training” and “enslavement,” but instead came up against the narcissistic abuser type mentioned in your blog post. For example, the now historical case of Patty Hearst’s kidnapping and her gradual mental and finally physical personification of one suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, is an exemplification of a trauma bond of a different stripe than (I believe) the one we truly have in mind and want to discuss. Patty Hearst did not seek initially of her own volition to be kidnapped and dominated by her Symbionese Liberation Army (left-wing/urban guerilla/revolutionary) abductors in 1974. Her traumatization, which led to her personality and mental transformation (including her name change to Tania), her denunciation of her own family, and her armed participation in subsequent bank robberies and bomb plantings by the SLA, for which she and the group leaders were later arrested, simply generated in her, these unintended psychological consequences. Hearst was sentenced to 7 years in prison, but her sentence was commuted to 22 months, and she was finally pardoned for her offenses. Her defense attributed most of the blame on coercive persuasion and brainwashing. Perhaps more germane to our use of the phrase “trauma bond” is
The following quote: “Stockholm syndrome is not exclusive to kidnappings—it can also be a coping mechanism or emotional response for those in abusive situations, whether domestic abuse, child abuse or human trafficking. It can also be related to abusive work situations or even certain coach-athlete dynamics.” In any event, I still believe that the phrase, when applied specifically to the specialized intricacies and the dynamic of predetermined consensual participation that obtain in the subcultural context of D/s, B&D, and S&M, must, perforce, be accompanied by certain reservations and caveats that will distinguish its somewhat peculiar application to the trauma undergone by unwitting subs at the hands of their narcissistic and “toxic” dom masters or mistresses. Please know that I am not making these comments to stand for some sort of outright exculpation or exoneration of those few doms that stray across the periphery of our rule-bound world- or lifestyle-choice–that is, of our game–and into the darker realm of criminality and illegality. Though our games are mostly consensually premised, there still must be consequences for those that can’t recognize or respect boundaries…and our common humanity and essential equality.


ExNameForUse replies on 5/14/2023 11:55 pm:
Thank you for your essey.

jenny14 75T  
90348 posts
5/15/2023 12:51 am

Ex

This is such an important topic! Thank you for posting the warning signs! We may kmow and even recognise them but , it can still be hard to escape the clutches of the abuser!!

I am very sorry you have had this experience!


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


ExNameForUse replies on 5/15/2023 1:14 am:
There is more to come, dear Jenny, as the topic is complex, and it should be talked through.
I am not an expert, I am, as many probably are, in this, going out of this, and each story has its specifics...
Still, some patterns exists and at least here someone may find them to read, and maybe do something to break ans get out of that cycle.

Artschoolgrad 47M
8719 posts
5/15/2023 4:29 am

great post


ExNameForUse replies on 5/15/2023 5:39 am:
Thank you, Arty.

bdsmDOMdaddy 61M
4163 posts
5/15/2023 5:58 am

all good info
you gotta love yourself to be able to love & be loved by others
you gotta forgive yourself & others to move on
you gotta let the past rest don’t dwell on it as the present passes you by the future is unknown live in the moment of the present
you have so much pain you carry around it’s suffocating you you’re not to blame wasn’t your fault you’re a victim you can’t fix them you can’t reason or control w stupidity & ignorance take back the power control they hold over you
you can control yourself & the situations people you allow to enter into your space up to you to be yourself true to yourself & keep negative & toxic people out that doesn’t mean you’re weak or mean make you bad shows how strong wise you are
take care of yourself first before others for they won’t take care of you!


ExNameForUse replies on 5/16/2023 10:30 am:
Thank you, for your kind and supportive approach, BDD.

Now I know that no one will take care of me, but me, and me only.


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