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SUB or SLAVE Hi everyone hope you are all OK? So in recent weeks I've had many 's with various people on here about my intention to be a live-in sub/slave and available for use 24/7 The mix of people that have been in touch have varied quite a lot but they seem to fit into two main groups .... Dom's and Masters. Now, on this kind of site that's not unusual but for a couple of questions have come up. Now I may be a blonde and a bit thick and it might be very obvious, but here's one of my questions .... Is a Dom always looking for a sub and is a Master always looking for a slave and do the abbreviations work as follows - D/s and M/s? Also, could someone help with the difference between a sub and a slave. Now someone did explain this to me but I'd like to see if his explanation is correct. I realise that it could vary slightly depending on the personal requirements of the Dom or Master Thanks for reading, and I'd love your thoughts and feedback on this. If you don't want to reply in this thread, please message me directly Looking forward to you comments thanks Blondie_K]  |
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Must say I do like the photo
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What do you identify with slave or sub
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Tal greets a girl smiles an hello ,says a Master would firstly see if a girl is suitable to train to learn with him ,and look to collar and train and nurture a sub or slave and train them completely in the dynamics of all parts of a BDSM Lifestyle to serve him in all, Where as most Dom's seems velcro collars or none just to enjoy the sub or slave in the time they have together not always looking to commit to Total commitment to training or teaching those that would serve them seems, and if do would move up to a { Master status} and the term lets his cock rule his head mostly applies here
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Tal greets girl smiles an hello says in my eyes the difference between sub and slave is the slave is looking to commit to her Master or Dom/Sir in all Sexually Physically and Mentally to give her all to the one she is with to serve them in all A Sub has either not found this need yet or want to commit in all to serve them in all keeping some vestige of her own ability of choise in her life hopes this also helps you to decide your path Master ADOMIS4U2
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Well Blondie_k . . . perhaps you now have your answer of Dom or Master. You know my thoughts because we have discussed at length. You just need, perhaps, to make your own decision whether D/s or M/s. Very nice photo btw x
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A sub has his/her own mind but their partner rules the relationship, a slave is property its owner might take lovers etc as the dynamics allow for this
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The age old question about the difference and/or definition of each. Reminds me of "Ginger or Mary Ann?" If you ask 1,000 people, you are going to get 1,000 different answers, although there may be a common thread among many. First, can we agree that all slaves are submissive, but not all submissives are slaves? Yeah, that's logical. When I have discussed this subject before, I try to boil it down to one simple concept. In theory, the submissive has defined limits of what she's willing to do, while a slave has few limits. I've seen a lot of profiles that advertise as a 'no limit slave'. Laughable, at best. Can I cut off your ears? Can I pull all your teeth out? Can I poke your eyes out? Everyone, and I do mean everyone, has limits. Is all of this carved in granite somewhere? Is there an official manual that lays out the laws between being a submissive or slave under penalty of 20 years in prison? No, it is between the two parties involved. They can use whatever labels work for them. Two ladies can behave the EXACT same way and one might call herself a submissive, while the other refers to herself as a slave. That's allowed in the lifestyle? That it is. Make Women Female Again
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1/20/2021 7:13 am |
In my 20 plus years of experience; this is my answer. A sub or bottom has rules of engagement that are stratified most likely stately clearly in a contract. I have only known a dozen subs that live 24/7/365. The dynamic is pre-determined and may evolve, but the D/s is correct. A slave is property and has no name, will, or worth. This may or may not be stated in a contract as the TPE is implied or by both when they begin their lives together. Slavery is a 24/7/365 endeavor and can be altered or ended by the Master at any time for any reason. The M/s is correct.
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1/20/2021 10:37 am |
I think you wil find that the definitions end up being rather flexible depending on the individuals. However the typical designation between a sub and slave is choice, a sub chooses to be submissive and may be helped or trained to become better at it, but they still ultimately choose to submit of their own free will. A slave is typically considered someone who is not given the choice, at least within the confines of what the Dominant and Slave agree upon, usually a contract of some sort, giving the Dom or Master a certain degree of control sometimes in the form of ownership as if they were property. However you need to keep in mind that no matter the designation of sub or slave, the submissive individual always has the right to walk away from negative/abusive situations or relationships. So in reality the designations dont define the relationship you establish, the lifestyle is one that you should find enjoyment and fulfillment in, not fear or abuse.
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A slave has no decisions to make they willing do everything and anything asked or told to do . a sub can stop at anytime or say no to doing something . a real slave will do anything and everything to please there master
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You will find that different people will define a dom and a master diffenently from person to person. You will fid a submissive who is more of a slave and a slave who is more of a submissive. In general, a submissive has an agreement, formal or otherwise where she or he has an agreement with thed ominat on what they have in both the relationship and what kinds of activities they will engage in. Where a master and slave situations is basically the slave has no say. Comply or be out/punished. It is not unusual for a submissive to become more slave like as the trust and bond grows between them. Each relationship is unique. It evolves. There are submissives who have an agreement, but calls the dominant maser for example. Take your time and learn all you can and get perspectives from other engaging in these type relationships. Some are live and some are not. Take from what you know nad learn and you select the kind of person you want to engage with. Best to you. "One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"
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think your more of a slave
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Sub or slave is not going to be dictated by a photo. I think you have a nice pussy with potential though
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love the pic....
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A sub still can think for themselves, a slave gives up all rights to think.
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Agree with above statement and the rite of choice too..there are as many different types of subs as there are subs..each with individual requirements wants needs from a Dom..its a 2way thing..a Dom should be bringing out the best in a sub and making her a better and more content happy healthy person..physicaly and mentaly..and vice versa in the sub bringing out the best in their Dom A slave is a vessel of servitude to serve pleasure with no rites to think for herself or choice in her/his life The 1st thing you need to decide is what you want in and from the rltnshp ..what will make you the happiest..content..next at your age is the fact of do you want children as that may be a major factor to many Doms and Masters for a long term arrangement to many at the age they are on here I would'nt limit yourself to only choosing off here either as there are much better places to find what you are looking for elsewhere with more uk members
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From the articles i have read on the subject, the distinction between a 'submissive' and a 'slave' varies widely based on personal opinion of the individual making the judgement. What one might consider a submissive another might consider a slave or v v. In general terms a slave gives away more control than a submissive but theres no precise dividing line between the two. Whats far more important is that the sub/slave and the Dominant both know clearly the extent of their particular control exchange and can trust each other. Could start out more submissive type and evolve to more of a slave relationship over time as trust increases Bets of luck in your search. I hope you find what works for you
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Blondie_K, here are a couple of examples of what a slave could end up doing as a result of a Master's choice. First YOU could be required to open your mouth and have your Master shit in it and then force you to eat it, Secondly, if a Master so desires, you could become a bitch for K9 play, or you could be forced into becoming a street whore for your Master's financial gain. Now these are extreme but you get the message of what could happen if you chose to become a slave. A submissive, has choices and agreed activities and limits within the dynamic. The sub may choose to do these same things, but it becomes their choice, they are not forced. A D/s dynamic will always/ or should, involve honest and open communication between the 2 players. This enables the Dom to discuss changes in play with the sub, and likewise, the sub to discuss with the Dom. The sub is there in the dynamic because of their gift of submission to those agreed boundaries, whereas the slave has gifted their submission but with NO real agreement of boundaries or activities which is totally at the whim of the Master. A slave basically gives up the right to think and organise. No making friends, not visiting family, no accumulation of money, not deciding what you eat or when, not deciding if you want kids, not deciding if you have others involved in your servitude or use. Another example could be that they have 'slut' or 'whore' tattooed on your forehead. Now having said all this, both the sub and the slave have the right to walk away at any time, because as we ALL know, slavery is not a legal relationship recognised in any court. Blondie_K, in life an individual has growth and development, right from when they are kids through to adulthood. What sort of employment they want, who they may want to go out with, where they live, and so on. This growth should NOT stop once you get into a relationship, as a matter of fact this growth becomes even more important, because if one person becomes lazy and falls into acceptance of what they have, the relationship then begins to decline and eventually whither and die like the fruit on the vine. So many 'vanilla' relationships are like this, and that is why there are so many separations and divorces. People looking for more, more contentment, more happiness, more fun, more fulfillment, with like minded people. Please DON'T fall into this NO growth place. You want to talk more, then you can message me through my Blog message place. Take care and stay safe.
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a wonderful photo
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