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pac369 64F  
10485 posts
6/25/2021 4:45 am

Last Read:
7/21/2021 3:00 pm

Cheating...

See below...



~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


pac369 64F  
12701 posts
6/25/2021 5:17 am

Has your definition of cheating changed in our online society?? Even with all the grey area, my thoughts have changed concerning online and real life...

If you are just chatting with someone online and have not met, when does cheating start??

If you view porn or live sex is that cheating, when your partner doesn't know about it??

If your emotional needs are being met by someone else, that your partner doesn't know about, is that cheating??

If you are sexting with people besides your partner, is that cheating??

Cheating use to be so easy to define... You were sexually with another person out of your relationship, without the other persons knowledge....

But now... it's like trying to navigate a mine field! There are so many different types of online relationships....

In my past cheating was brought up with someone I had never met. We totally disagreed with our beliefs on the subject... Talking online, even for a few weeks, does not mean a relationship. Not in my eyes anyway. Especially, when specifics have not been discussed...

I can only get so vested in online anything... If we don't progress like a normal relationship would, I can only get so interested... Whereas, you then become someone I chat with and nothing more...

Until I have met anyone face to face, I don't feel like I am cheating... That doesn't mean I am going to send nasty pics to anyone I talk to though, or share my most intimate thoughts, and I am certainly not engaging in online play... It just means I don't have a commitment with another...

When I sit across from you, look into your eyes, and feel that we have chemistry... Then; we can talk about a possible relationship and what we deem is acceptable behavior for each other...

Otherwise, I will continue chatting with Dom's if the occasion presents itself. I have stopped seeking out any Dom's on my end... It's just a cluster fuck if I initiate contact. Regardless, online chatting is a wonderful learning portal for me... Where I can pick and choose who I talk to..

Hopefully, you have navigated your own thoughts and beliefs about cheating? Because it's a slippery slope if you don't know what you believe...

~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


slaveforyou365 63M  
4528 posts
6/25/2021 5:27 am



Slave rick


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 5:34 am:
Yeah...

sexbunnyman 43M

6/25/2021 5:29 am

you know, I agree with you. there is a lot of gray area now with a lot of things. one persons definition of cheating is completely different than another persons


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 5:35 am:
Absolutely true... If you ask 100 people I think you would get 100 different answers.. Thanks for your thoughts..

Wicked_Tongue 61M
690 posts
6/25/2021 5:57 am

I must say right from the start, I agree that cheating is the single most disrespectful and deceitful thing one person can do to another.

And on top of that, you are doing it to a person about whom you are supposed to care. It is the ultimate no-no I know!!!

But as regards online stuff, I suppose that if you have not yet had the conversation (ie, any type of commitment or arrangement to take things further when this becomes possible) then you are free from any obligation.

If you have already had that conversation, then you are on very thin ice!


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 6:18 am:
I do concur with you WT... But as in many cases, both parties might not feel the same. As in, one wanting a form of commitment from online when the other doesn't..

Until you both agree, I think you are free to chat with others...

Thanks for your thoughts..

Wicked_Tongue 61M
690 posts
6/25/2021 6:27 am

Yes Pac... I took that as a given. For unless both parties agree on the details, one might agree to a relationship meaning a one to one monogamous relationship, but the other might be thinking in terms of a polygamous relationship, with both parties free to invite others into the relationship.

This would be disastrous, but in point of fact both parties had agreed to a relationship! The lack of definition there is the problem!

(Can't believe how many times I have just typed relationship!)


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 6:36 am:
A poly relationship was never in my thoughts WT.. I guess my biggest thought is online chatting is just that for me, chatting.. And I can only give so much towards a dynamic that doesn't progress..

If we are not talking on the phone, video chatting, and discussing meeting each other, how can I even talk exclusive relationship with a Dom? Just saying..

Hopefully that clarifies my post a bit more??

BadDoggBlue 66M

6/25/2021 6:43 am

Cheating is Cheating.Have the balls to end it before looking for another partner.


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 7:03 am:
I agree.. I cheated once in my early life and felt horrible about it.. I have never done it since and don’t agree with it.. Thanks for your comments..

Wicked_Tongue 61M
690 posts
6/25/2021 7:41 am

Sorry, Pac... I was not having a dig at you... In no way did I mean to reference anyone's personal situation, let alone yours.

Rather I was just trying to point out the possibilities for any such arrangements to become derailed by misunderstandings, misapprehensions, and general miscommunications.


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 12:11 pm:
No worries WT... I appreciate what you were saying. And no explanation was necessary.. But thanks anyway!

drmgirl622 68F  
26184 posts
6/25/2021 8:23 am

So many variables today bring on a conundrum. If I am video chatting and we have an agreement anything done outside of that agreement is cheating.


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 12:12 pm:
Yes drmgirl.. I so agree. And "agreement" is the key word for sure... Thanks for your thoughts..

Gowron 69M
3117 posts
6/25/2021 10:37 am

Gleeden is an app for married women who want to cheat their husbands.


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 12:13 pm:
Damn.. I had no idea. If you can live with the guilt, so be it.. I can't. Thanks for the info..

tahimikbayani 53M
8008 posts
6/25/2021 4:29 pm

I guess it's in the eye or judgment of the beholder, an the beholder is the partner that one disrespects by their actions.

On a site like this one where the intentions are to match people or foster a possible hook-up and allow nudity or sexy-sensual photos, one has to tread carefully not to cross the line.


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 6:17 pm:
I could not agree more.. Treading lightly and not crossing the line is so important…

But I want so much more than online.. And that is where my frustrations are..

Thanks so much for your thoughts…

1uncommondom 77M

6/25/2021 4:33 pm

There is so much more to
a monogamous relationship
than a few online messages,
sex or even a few sparks
from a couple of meetings.
I don't think cheating begins
until forsaking all other does.
It could a formal collaring
or a blood bonding ceremony.


pac369 replies on 6/25/2021 6:21 pm:
I think you have excellent points 1uncommon… And I agree.. Just chatting online does not a relationship make… And that was my exact point.,, Thanks for your insightful comments as always…

jenny14 75T  
90467 posts
6/25/2021 10:52 pm

pac

This is a very thought provoking post!

I think "cheating" is what we each define it as! As you say, is online cheating? Everyone is different!

I too agree that One can learn a lot Online

A great post


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


pac369 replies on 6/26/2021 7:01 am:
Thank you Jenny… I really appreciate your thoughts on the subject! Hopefully you are well and not suffering to much from a lockdown…

NoNonsense_Dom 70M  
1544 posts
6/28/2021 9:58 pm

First up I would like to say, hand on heart, I have never cheated on a partner. I don't see the need to cheat if we have honest and open communication. I do see my ideas of cheating have changed a little with this online life we have available to us now, but being single, it's not something that I have to worry about on a personal level, although I do see a lot of subs who are prepared to cheat on their partners. Getting involved with them is not something that I like to do, unless they are prepared to leave their partners first, or that they talk with their partner about having an open relationship.


pac369 replies on 6/29/2021 4:31 am:
Yeah.. As you can tell my ideas have also changed… I think many people get confused with chatting and think there’s more to it than there is.. Which is why I hate many things about excessive online chatting. And I confront those who only want to text.. It takes up too much time constantly typing to communicate. Fuck that! And I want a relationship, not a text buddy with benefits, jeez…


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