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hardtop4you 65M
246 posts
3/24/2022 5:16 am
The difference between a submissive, a slave, an a bottom.

If I have a pair of boots and
I want them shined, an I give
them to a slave she will shine
them exactly as I want them.
If I give them to a submissive
she will shine them as well as
she thinks is good.
If I give them to a bottom she will
throw the boot at my feet and tell
me to shine them my f..... self
and then she wait for her beating.
They're all different . .
If you don't know which one she is . .
ask her to shine your boots.


hardtop4you 65M

3/24/2022 5:21 am

Don't break her spirit, enjoy it.


pac369 64F  
12700 posts
3/24/2022 5:37 am

Well h...
I think that applies to most...
Not one who shined her own boots
for her job though!

~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


hardtop4you replies on 3/24/2022 10:40 am:
It's not about shining boots, tks.

ridermantel 68M

3/24/2022 5:54 am

Knowing is doing. And doing means doing it right.


hardtop4you replies on 3/24/2022 10:44 am:
can you put the butterfly back in the cacoon?

Xplorer15 62M/59F
592 posts
3/24/2022 6:12 am

Perhaps she is a Domme if after you ask her to shine your boots she puts one on and licks your ass?!


hardtop4you replies on 3/24/2022 10:46 am:
I've had my patience tested . . . I'm negative.

rondiri 65M
11180 posts
3/24/2022 7:35 am

I think it depends on the individual, not the label put on them


hardtop4you replies on 3/24/2022 10:47 am:
The answer may indeed not lie at the bottom of a wine bottle.

Devilzcharm 64M/64F
198 posts
3/24/2022 7:43 am

I think it depends on the individual, not the label put on them

The type of submissive you are defines the label, not vice versa.


WhiteDom4BlacFem 50M
105 posts
3/24/2022 8:06 am

What she calls herself or identifies has nothing to do with her mindfulness or self awareness.

In this life one must know and act with full vigor for it to have meaning.


hardtop4you replies on 3/24/2022 10:51 am:
We live on a blue planet, that circles a ball of fire, next to a moon that moves oceans and you believe you control your own mind . . how cute.

rosaenaluin 65F
11008 posts
3/24/2022 1:27 pm

I like the picture,
and the story too.

I know submissives calling themselves slaves,
(because that word makes them feel horny)
but they make the rules of the play, the when, how and where..
.
I know bottoms who are more submissive then bottom

And i know slaves who are just into the game playing, role play...

and i know submissives, who dont like the word slave, for historical reason and are slaves, anyway, in their demeanor, mind set.

I would love to shine his boots, the way he taugh me too.
If that is a fetish of him.

Wanting to please, be of service, wanting to make him proud, make his life easier, is in my eye, one aspect of wanting to be his slave.
Boots or no boots

not submissive, not bottom.
Just my thoughts on this matter.


hardtop4you replies on 3/24/2022 7:25 pm:
Thank you.

DangGina 57F

6/18/2022 7:43 pm

Are we not all slaves to an extent? The Dom/Master is a slave to his sub/slave by ensuring he is teaching, punishing (when needed), pleasing (emotionally, psychologically, and physically) and making sure there is open communication?

A sub/slave is also ensuring open communication, trust, learning what is taught, taking punishment (when required to learn what is being taught), pleasing her Dom/Master?

Both are attempting (if it is a true BDSM relationship) to strive for the same mutual needs and desires, yes??? In that sense, both are working towards reaching the others expectations and to do the others' bidding.



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