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University Protests: Stop Student Debt Forgiveness Free speech is incredibly important, but sometimes listening and watching is far more important. All these student protests occurring at Universities in support of Hamas actions last week makes me double down on my rejection of forgiving student loans. Why should the taxpayer be on the hook for protestors student loans? Why should alumni donate their money to support protestors scholarship programs? Are future employers okay with these protestors being part of their companies? Being leaders in their companies? Maybe our Universities are not providing a well-rounded<b> education </font></b>they claim to offer. Maybe it is time to rethink these overpriced, glorified, daycare institutions. |
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10/14/2023 1:34 pm |
It will not stop with student loans. It will be car loans next. Mortgages after. Hey why not credit card debt too. It only stops when the people that pay their bills and loans say NO1
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Do you remember when universities were free? Reagan made them cost and now students are basically burdened with debt forever which is what the capitalists want. The war machine is bailed out yearly and no one knows where that goes. Big banks and auto companies are bailed out. The USA used to be great until Reagan pulled the plug. If you want America to be great again...it begins with education and not being saddled with 200K of debt that takes 40 years to pay off. Hope
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It's all part of the "giverment" culture......why work when the rents free.... Here's a thought....they can all go in the military to pay back those loans. I'll be lenient. I'll even giveum a twofer.....two months payments for every month served. They get theirs up front.....we had to serve then got ours when we got out. They get a hell of a lot more now then we did back then. I doubt even with the super lax requirements now that many of those meatheads would be able to make it to term without mental, physical and other get out free from the military problems.   
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why? You know why reagan stopped wanting to include College and University tuition in child funding? Because it made the electorate stupid and gullible. The example is proven over and over today. Pick a side each work. Why would someone have to end up dead or shooting someone to be considered useful. Why serve in war when they could just go to school to be better. A better toddler makes a better student hence the push for food at school because if you are nourished and fed you can concentrate on schooling. A good high school for all means better sports and achievements in art and music and grades. This produces better engineers and doctors. Look at Scandinavian countries for happiness. They are taxed the most but have the highest happiness even though they live in the north. People with brains who add value to society. The biggest threat to the republican way is education hence book bans and following the bible. You may as well follow harry potter at the way christianity is choosing what they allow and and choose what is jesus like. "Giverment"? Why does Elon get money but no one else does? Why do banks and big oil get bailed out and no one else does? Imagine following a religion and making certain your neighbor (sp) is taken care of. That they do not need to sell their house to be taken care of. That they do not need to get divorced after 50 years of marriage because medical debt is killing you and they need to protect the other. Change begins with you and me. i choose to care for my neighbours. What i do not need is ten people making billions of dollars when the rest of us are stuck looking after our friends. Hope
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10/14/2023 3:37 pm |
why? You know why reagan stopped wanting to include College and University tuition in child funding? Because it made the electorate stupid and gullible. The example is proven over and over today. Pick a side each work. Why would someone have to end up dead or shooting someone to be considered useful. Why serve in war when they could just go to school to be better. A better toddler makes a better student hence the push for food at school because if you are nourished and fed you can concentrate on schooling. A good high school for all means better sports and achievements in art and music and grades. This produces better engineers and doctors. Look at Scandinavian countries for happiness. They are taxed the most but have the highest happiness even though they live in the north. People with brains who add value to society. The biggest threat to the republican way is education hence book bans and following the bible. You may as well follow harry potter at the way christianity is choosing what they allow and and choose what is jesus like. "Giverment"? Why does Elon get money but no one else does? Why do banks and big oil get bailed out and no one else does? Imagine following a religion and making certain your neighbor (sp) is taken care of. That they do not need to sell their house to be taken care of. That they do not need to get divorced after 50 years of marriage because medical debt is killing you and they need to protect the other. Change begins with you and me. i choose to care for my neighbours. What i do not need is ten people making billions of dollars when the rest of us are stuck looking after our friends.
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It's all part of the "giverment" culture......why work when the rents free.... Here's a thought....they can all go in the military to pay back those loans. I'll be lenient. I'll even giveum a twofer.....two months payments for every month served. They get theirs up front.....we had to serve then got ours when we got out. They get a hell of a lot more now then we did back then. I doubt even with the super lax requirements now that many of those meatheads would be able to make it to term without mental, physical and other get out free from the military problems. You bitched about increasing rent. Well, it's been unaffordable for folks making minimum wage for decades. "God damn, my rent is going up so blame somebody - thst fucking libtard POTUS". Other's rent is going up? "I got mine, fuck you. Pay your bills." You are two-faced (hypocrite). Get over yourself and stop saying things that make you look like a fool. Copyright 2023. Be clever in your insult. If not, I'll sue you for copyright infringement.
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Do you remember when universities were free? Reagan made them cost and now students are basically burdened with debt forever which is what the capitalists want. The war machine is bailed out yearly and no one knows where that goes. Big banks and auto companies are bailed out. The USA used to be great until Reagan pulled the plug. If you want America to be great again...it begins with education and not being saddled with 200K of debt that takes 40 years to pay off.
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10/14/2023 4:42 pm |
HMMM? I don't think the question I asked was posed to you was it, 'your highness'? And AGAIN, even though it's not your post, nor was the question directed at you, AGAIN, you ASSUME I have an allegiance with Trump, much like you did in another post. For someone that CLAIMS to be the SUPERIOR INTELLECT of Alt's BLOGS, you make some BIG assumptions, and you know what they say when you ASSUME, or do you, 'your highness'? Oh, and to answer the question YOU posed to me, you know, "And what does an abortion have to do with education, student loans,....?", that question. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, 'your highness', as Boundsissy2013 went on about education being the fundamental key to GREATNESS for those that get one that Boundsissy2013 mentioned in the comment I responded to. It would stand to REASON that such an education would SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER the need for abortion, since there'd be more BIG BRAINS like 'your highness' roaming the land utilizing said brains from having 'accidents' that need to be aborted, right? He, Boundsissy2013, implied the need for education at the University/College level should be paid for by the Federal Government, just like the MAJORITY of abortions in this country were, through PLANNED PARENTHOOD, with the Federal Government picking up the tab, and that "tab" being paid by the law abiding US taxpayers, much like Boundsissy2013 advocates University/College tuitions in this country should be, as well. Seems as though 'your highness' can't SEE the correlations, shame, i guess, your RAGE kicks in and you loose all sense of focus, maybe? You have a nice evening, and be careful getting off of your high horse, 'your assholiness'...
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Fuck you alt. I spell out abortion and I get banned. Other assholes spell out abortion and they don't. I hope you choke on your sensors that are applied incredibly inconsistent. Just giving a few facts and fucked. I'll try again as facts are never hate!
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HMMM? I don't think the question I asked was posed to you was it, 'your highness'? And AGAIN, even though it's not your post, nor was the question directed at you, AGAIN, you ASSUME I have an allegiance with Trump, much like you did in another post. For someone that CLAIMS to be the SUPERIOR INTELLECT of Alt's BLOGS, you make some BIG assumptions, and you know what they say when you ASSUME, or do you, 'your highness'? Oh, and to answer the question YOU posed to me, you know, "And what does an abortion have to do with education, student loans,....?", that question. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, 'your highness', as Boundsissy2013 went on about education being the fundamental key to GREATNESS for those that get one that Boundsissy2013 mentioned in the comment I responded to. It would stand to REASON that such an education would SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER the need for abortion, since there'd be more BIG BRAINS like 'your highness' roaming the land utilizing said brains from having 'accidents' that need to be aborted, right? He, Boundsissy2013, implied the need for education at the University/College level should be paid for by the Federal Government, just like the MAJORITY of abortions in this country were, through PLANNED PARENTHOOD, with the Federal Government picking up the tab, and that "tab" being paid by the law abiding US taxpayers, much like Boundsissy2013 advocates University/College tuitions in this country should be, as well. Seems as though 'your highness' can't SEE the correlations, shame, i guess, your RAGE kicks in and you loose all sense of focus, maybe? You have a nice evening, and be careful getting off of your high horse, 'your assholiness'... I've never claimed to be superior. I claim to have methods that can withstand scrutiny. Your methods can't. If you consider that, me being superior, then you have many other issues that there are medications for. BTW, your condescending tone isn't appropriate. You may not be a MAGA, but you use the GOP, faux noise, trump "argument" line. You use the same false "data" and fallacy rich logic. Why your question didn't match the thread nor the response. It appeared you were phishing for something else with a tone of superiority. Just like the GOP, faux noise, and trump. No argument. No data. No logic. Just got ya politics. That's not a debate or discourse. That's just trolling! See any definition of online trolling. Put a photo of you and a few others that commented here next to that definition. BTW, your "argument" is just bunk. Been debunked 1000s of times in peer reviewed journals of economics and sociology. Not saying that state legislatures are smart by ignoring it. Having society pay for education is the best thing that can happen (6 to 1 return on investment - the highest of any government investment). Having a math teacher come out with 200,000$ of debt is the worst thing to do for a society. Yet, here we are. But you won't read those studies and only listen to the GOP, faux noise, trump "argument" which is full of lies and holes and is a direct descendant of the Rockefeller way of education - he want the serfs to be educated enough to put Tab A into Slot B and no more. Paraphrase: Can't have my employees thinking for themselves. Then they might want more than the 80 hour weeks, paid in company script only good at the company store, meager wages I pay them This is what the GOP wants with Project 2025. While your superiority and condescending tone is inappropriate, my words will mean nothing to you as you don't understand them. You'd rather just call me names.
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Hi, GREAT speech filled with warmth, emotion, and kindness, Boundsisy2013! One question, and I hope you give the 'company line answer', where do you stand on ABORTION?
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Hi, GREAT speech filled with warmth, emotion, and kindness, Boundsisy2013! One question, and I hope you give the 'company line answer', where do you stand on ABORTION?
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Hi, GREAT speech filled with warmth, emotion, and kindness, Boundsisy2013! One question, and I hope you give the 'company line answer', where do you stand on ABORTION?
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Hi, GREAT speech filled with warmth, emotion, and kindness, Boundsisy2013! One question, and I hope you give the 'company line answer', where do you stand on ABORTION?
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Hi, GREAT speech filled with warmth, emotion, and kindness, Boundsisy2013! One question, and I hope you give the 'company line answer', where do you stand on ABORTION?
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Fuck you alt. I spell out abortion and I get banned. Other assholes spell out abortion and they don't. I hope you choke on your sensors that are applied incredibly inconsistent. Just giving a few facts and fucked. I'll try again as facts are never hate!
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10/14/2023 7:59 pm |
America is a failed state. It's the blocked toilet of the world.
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"We don't need no education We don't need no thought control. " Pink Floyd, The Wall. Basically, people behave in the way they are conditioned to. Almost all educational facilities in the Western world practice social conditioning as much as they do education. Most are left leaning, and the right leaning are usually exclusive, such as Ivy League. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger, and these are the facts.
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"We don't need no education We don't need no thought control. " Pink Floyd, The Wall. Basically, people behave in the way they are conditioned to. Almost all educational facilities in the Western world practice social conditioning as much as they do education. Most are left leaning, and the right leaning are usually exclusive, such as Ivy League. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger, and these are the facts. If that is left leaning (and it was WAY more than left leaning - why they used the word enlightened), then is that a bad thing? This country was founded on progressive ideals not conservative ones.
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Do you remember when universities were free? Reagan made them cost There is a memory for you. I was in Calif. when gov. reagan passed legislation changing free education to tuition education. I was at UCLA when he came to speak and the students rolled six calif. hwy patrol cars over an burnt them . . reagan decided to speak another time. I was also at USC when watts burned down. Basically, people behave in the way they are conditioned to. Humans are animals and animals in rage do not think, they react. Students protest because they can and because it is part of the educational process to allow them peaceful demonstrations to understand what is needed to change the things we can and accept the things we can't.
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10/14/2023 8:40 pm |
As I've explained, it's a blog. End of that discussion. I've never claimed to be superior. I claim to have methods that can withstand scrutiny. Your methods can't. If you consider that, me being superior, then you have many other issues that there are medications for. BTW, your condescending tone isn't appropriate. You may not be a MAGA, but you use the GOP, faux noise, trump "argument" line. You use the same false "data" and fallacy rich logic. Why your question didn't match the thread nor the response. It appeared you were phishing for something else with a tone of superiority. Just like the GOP, faux noise, and trump. No argument. No data. No logic. Just got ya politics. That's not a debate or discourse. That's just trolling! See any definition of online trolling. Put a photo of you and a few others that commented here next to that definition. BTW, your "argument" is just bunk. Been debunked 1000s of times in peer reviewed journals of economics and sociology. Not saying that state legislatures are smart by ignoring it. Having society pay for education is the best thing that can happen (6 to 1 return on investment - the highest of any government investment). Having a math teacher come out with 200,000$ of debt is the worst thing to do for a society. Yet, here we are. But you won't read those studies and only listen to the GOP, faux noise, trump "argument" which is full of lies and holes and is a direct descendant of the Rockefeller way of education - he want the serfs to be educated enough to put Tab A into Slot B and no more. Paraphrase: Can't have my employees thinking for themselves. Then they might want more than the 80 hour weeks, paid in company script only good at the company store, meager wages I pay them This is what the GOP wants with Project 2025. While your superiority and condescending tone is inappropriate, my words will mean nothing to you as you don't understand them. You'd rather just call me names. Last time I checked, we STILL have "FREE SPEECH" in this nation, and I PRETTY sure "FREE THOUGHT" goes hand in hand with that right, as well. You can twist and turn and imply, draw conclusions, etc. any way you want to try and draw a line from what I've written to something Trump said, but at the end of the day, those 'methods' that you use don't or cannot "withstand scrutiny" as you surmise. Talk about "TONE OF SUPERIORITY"? The Canuck made a compelling argument filled with kindness and emotions and warmth for his 'neighbors' with examples like "Why serve in war when they could just go to school to be better. A better toddler makes a better student hence the push for food at school because if you are nourished and fed you can concentrate on schooling. A good high school for all means better sports and achievements in art and music and grades. This produces better engineers and doctors.", and I stated that PRIOR to asking the question about his stance on abortion. Now you've put in your 'two cents' with your "methods that can withstand scrutiny.", I'd like to hear what the Canuck's position on Abortion is, if that's alright with you...
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You are actually correct except for one thing. Most universities and colleges are not left leaning. They are following the enlightened path put forward by our founding fathers. If that is left leaning (and it was WAY more than left leaning - why they used the word enlightened), then is that a bad thing? This country was founded on progressive ideals not conservative ones.
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Oh, I understand the workings of a BLOG, but my QUESTION wasn't directed to you, it WAS specific to 'Boundsissy2013', you're perfectly within your rights to throw your two cents in (BY THE WAY, YOU began the name calling on a PRIOR comment, ON A PRIOR topic, so, clean up your own "ACT", and then you can EXPECT others to clean up theirs), doesn't REQUIRE me to read or respond to ANYTHING you say. and you're the KING of what you accuse me of having, "a tone of superiority.". But it's NOT BUNK that the Federal Government had/has been paying for abortions through Planned Parenthood for some time now, on the US taxpayers dime, and that your idea and the Canuck's idea of the HIGHER EDUCATION of the USA should be a part of the same gravy train for the "GREATER GOOD" argument that you have stated, is coming from the SAME resources, the US taxpayers. NONE of that is BUNK, as you put it. And I take it from your answer that you disagree with the assessment I made that a "HIGHER EDUCATED society" that you and the Canuck see as the result of the socialist policies you aspire to (based on your FACTS AND FIGURES not only from here, but the Scandinavian Countries that have ALREADY applied these policies), won't have ANY affect on the "Abortion rate" in this country, is that correct or did I miss the mark there? Last time I checked, we STILL have "FREE SPEECH" in this nation, and I PRETTY sure "FREE THOUGHT" goes hand in hand with that right, as well. You can twist and turn and imply, draw conclusions, etc. any way you want to try and draw a line from what I've written to something Trump said, but at the end of the day, those 'methods' that you use don't or cannot "withstand scrutiny" as you surmise. Talk about "TONE OF SUPERIORITY"? The Canuck made a compelling argument filled with kindness and emotions and warmth for his 'neighbors' with examples like "Why serve in war when they could just go to school to be better. A better toddler makes a better student hence the push for food at school because if you are nourished and fed you can concentrate on schooling. A good high school for all means better sports and achievements in art and music and grades. This produces better engineers and doctors.", and I stated that PRIOR to asking the question about his stance on abortion. Now you've put in your 'two cents' with your "methods that can withstand scrutiny.", I'd like to hear what the Canuck's position on Abortion is, if that's alright with you... If you are referring to being called willfully ignorant, I had data to show that you were. The data you used was wrong. Your argument was full of holes and fallacies. I pointed them out to you. You then called me superior and started the condescending tone. Yet, you still have no argument with credible data and just more condescending words - name calling. The sign of a losing "argument". This is the definition of trolling. I have never used a condescending tone. So, you now admit that I can throw in my two cents - but that's not what you said previously. You've changed your story. Interesting. Show me where I have a tone of superiority? I recite the data that shows you are wrong. The data does not support your conclusion. The data is freely available to anyone if you want to try and find it. You don't. That's the definition of willfully ignorant. You on purpose don't find data to back up your conclusion. I do. My methods survive scrutiny. I stand by my assertion that my methods aren't superior but stand up to scrutiny. Yours do not as I have shown. The rest of your "argument " has been debunked a 1000 times over. It is ILLEGAL to use government funds to pay for an abortion. Has been for decades. The data simply does not support your conclusion. Plus, can you get an abortion? I can't either. Therefore, is it any of our fucking business? I'm with Jefferson on this (paraphrase) if it doesn't pick my pocket or break my leg, then it's none of my business. Well, unless your wife is your property, then it does pick your personal pocket. But that brings up an entirely different question. Plus, there are many arguments that have everything to do with a functioning modern society that have nothing to do with a European old man in the sky watching and judging our every move. Again, 3 minute search and read. Those arguments have nothing to do with education. I never said greater good. I never will. I said government. If you remember, the government is for "We the People". You drew an erroneous conclusion of greater good. I said education is a 6 to 1 return on a government investment. How is the word investment a socialistic term? Again, my words mean nothing to you. You read them and then interject your own bias on them. I try to read your words for what they say in context. Why I questioned you abortion comment. It didn't match their comment or the thread of the post. That is all I questioned and you come back with an inappropriate response to me that uses condescending language and then say I started it. I left that argument style when I was 5. You then rambled on and it makes very little sense. Something about Canada, Europe, Scandinavia (part of Europe BTW and some of the happiest, well adjusted, and richest people on earth - even though the weather sucks  I spent 13 years in Idaho. I never want to see snow again). I digress.Ultimately, you show your bias even when trying to explain yourself. Your question to the Canuck was not in a friendly tone but in a "I'm going to get you" tone. Just like you did with me. A tone of superiority. Your views are right whether the data supports you or not. Plus, he's Canadian and not a Canuck. To most Canadians, its an insult. You could have phrased your want from him in a better tone instead of the condescending one you used if you were truely curious. It was obvious to many (others have reported to me about your tone to him) that your intentions were very different from one of curiosity. Nice try.
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I was not referring to education in the US in particular, but all Western educational facilities. Being progressive? That's fine if you progress in a positive way. The trouble with the US is that it has taken a line of courting with conflict and division since the first slaves arrived. It has always been a case of " what's good for us, the world has to put up with". Do you think the rest of the world would be having all the issues they are with the middle east if it weren't for USA foreign policy? Politically, they have been the thorn in the side of the world for over a century, all for greed, and it isn't stopping anytime soon. As far as education goes, education is by definition progressive, enlightened, rational. That's the point. Religious schools are their antithesis. The problem is your use of "positive" is subjective. One man's ter ror ist is another man's fre edom fig hter. Like I've said before, the splitting of the atom created green baseline power, and wea pons. Nixon and MAD created 80+ years of no world wa rs. Was it worth it? Depends on who you ask. Education as a positive progression. That's the problem. Who's definition of positive? W got one thing right: the world would be a better place if he was dictator. The part he left out was it would be a better place for him. It would be a better place for me if I was dictator. Anybody could say that. But would it be for everybody? No. Why we don't want an autocrate and Project 2025. But you need a progressive education to debunk project 2025. Why Trump is king of non-college white males. Why I go for education in almost all forms. Technical, academic, practical, etc.... it progresses is enlightened, and is rational. Is it positive? That is what society (through government in our representational democracy) is for! Not everybody is going to agree. I'd say we are in a bad place right now for that discussion. My God, a real discussion on this without trolling! I'm so happy and grateful to you!
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Curious...the original poster seems to be saying that: 1. Everyone should accept that the protests are in support of Hamas. I have seen protests in support of Palestinians, but not in support of Hamas. Maybe I'm not seeing the same protests. 2. Only the First Amendment rights of those who agree with the OP should be honored. I'm not sure that's what the Founders had in mind. Just an observation.
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