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newAndCurious888 41M
514 posts
10/29/2023 1:44 am
No law will ever stop a mass shootings. EVER.


The arguments have been played over and over, but here we go again.

How many decades do we have keep going over this? There are over 20,000 gun laws in the United States. Do we need 20,000 more laws? Maybe the law number 20,001 would have worked. Maybe number 20,002? At what point is this approach considered ineffective?

Clinton, Obama, Biden, and many democrat majorities in congress have had plenty of opportunities to make any law they wanted to stop mass shootings. What did they do over the years, other than completely fail? As corrupt as they all are, I honestly do believe if they had the solution, they would have implemented it a ;long time ago.

Conclusion:
There is no law you can make that will stop mass shootings. None. That is the common sense conclusion about laws and guns.

newAndCurious888 41M

10/29/2023 1:44 am

However, gun laws can restrict your rights, be used to impact other political issues, and make lawyers much much richer. Coincidently, most politicians are lawyers. This is what gun control is really all about. Wealth and Power.


TheRedQueen79 43F
11 posts
10/29/2023 4:17 am

Stricter gun laws and regulations have statistically proven that they work waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more often than not in tons of other countries. You can't argue that fact. The problem is that the US does it wrong and worse than half-assed. It tries to appease sensible people with laws, but also wants to please everyone under the gun/arms business (both the legal and illegal kind) and even the prison industrial complex. It does nothing helpful to create actually useful laws because it all ends up being conflicted and ridiculous.
We also refuse to address the core of the problems which drive people to commit crimes with guns with proactive measures- which are also proven to reduce crime. The US is always reactive to their problems, which by then is too late because the crimes are already committed. The US truly is it's own worst enemy.


bmw318is61 52M
96 posts
10/29/2023 4:28 am

Being not familiar with the subject, unless be it with those regular news headlines of such killings, mostly in the gun loving US of A!
It is part of your culture and I have no problem with this liberty in your country to carry guns, on condition of course that it is regulated.
But I agree totally with your conclusion.statement that law 20.000+1 is not going to change anything on the ground, unless benefit those politicians, who turn out indeed to be mostly greedy lawyers, with the only interest, namely themselves.
Although I'm a very peace minded citizen, if I had the chance to buy a weapon, I would do so in a blink of an eye: he who wants peace prepare for war.....is what I'm thinking now.
The price for such liberty of gun permits or guns on the street is of course much more gun incidents, inclusive like mass shootings/killings....but there will be always unavoidable 'collateral damage'. That's life and also a choice that society makes.

Greetz,
Dom J.


bmw318is61 52M
96 posts
10/29/2023 4:39 am

To the 'red' queen:

I agree with all the points raised - which are very well written as additional thoughts in this case - and I had some similar in mind as well, while writing my comment. Greetz!

P.S.: I like a female with constructive thoughts, as long as they are no fake profiles.


likesmatures 55M
4867 posts
10/29/2023 5:36 am

Well the whole point of legally owning a gun..is

It gives a weaker person a chance to defend themselves.

A perfect example: a homeless man stands up and starts to sexually (@$$ault) a woman walking down the street in San fran..

It took another man with pepper spray to get this guy off and stop the attack..

But what if she was alone...

People have to understand..esp people from foreign countries..the police do not walk a beat..fuck they don't even drive a regular beat..
Rather they respond to 911 calls..

So if she could have called...it would take the cops 3 to 5 ,minutes to arrive...
While she was being r word.

A gun would have stopped the attack and the aggressor.

A 120lb woman can finally stop a 150 to 300lb man..

A gun can stop a mob trying to break into your house..

For every idiot mass shooter...there are tons of idiots breaking into house,stealing cars,mugging people


likesmatures 55M
4867 posts
10/29/2023 5:43 am

Just look at the profile of " mass shooters"...

And it's odd that 3 or more people killed

Is considered a mass shooting ( seems to artificially inflate the numbers)..

Unless it's in the inner city...then it's just labeled a homicide..

But 99.9999999 percent of these men have mental issues,run ins with the law...
The schools,the teachers,the police and perhaps the fbi knows these people could commit such an act..

Yet we just sit back and wait???

And being real..an ar 15 looks cool but isn't a great weapon ..
People want to ban them....then ban shotguns or pistols...where does it stop..

Then these idiots will make something that explodes or bring knives to school etc.


tastetester61 62M
1789 posts
10/29/2023 5:52 am

After Martin Bryant murd3ded enough people to set a record in a cafe in Tasmania, Australia, we implemented laws that did exactly that. Nearly all of our gun crime in this country is crime gang related. They shoot each other, and I'm happy with that.

The US will never do what is required, as it is too gun centric. Just compare them to ANY other country in the world.


uncommon1 66M  
1477 posts
10/29/2023 6:52 am

The assault weapons ban did
significantly reduce active shooter
events and more importantly
setting it aside significantly increased
active shooter events. So to your
point YES laws can seriously effect
gun crime.

But the law that would be the most
effective would be to forbid corporate
money, like the NRA, Remington, Winchester,
Colt from paying for, an owning politicians.

If special interests were removed from U.S.
politics this country would change on a dime.



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