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rondiri 65M
7313 posts
5/2/2022 9:08 pm

Last Read:
7/29/2022 5:00 pm

Quote of the Marquis de Sade

Another Yay or Nay for today. True or False? In your valued opinions.



rondiri 65M
11200 posts
5/2/2022 9:10 pm

Was the father of Sadism correct?


WillingXLeather 42M

5/2/2022 11:04 pm

I would make the argument that like a lot of things in life, it's a scale, yes? On a basic level, it's true that you can't have one without the other. Light and dark. Cold and heat. Love and apathy. From a BDSM/kink perspective, though that's a gray area and we each have our own scale. From a Dom/Domme and Sub point of view, we enjoy pleasure and pain for our own reasons.


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 10:12 am:
BDSM had so many degrees in everything.

UR_Fantazee 27F  
7057 posts
5/3/2022 2:00 am

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There's the jagged 'pain' of the type of say, stubbing your toe - then there's the exquisite 'pain' that can come from Daddy's attention that is the most wonderful feeling I know. That goes far beyond simple pleasure in my mind. xx

"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 10:27 am:
Very good point.

Azureeyed 55M
33 posts
5/3/2022 2:43 am

The Marquis de Sade has a point, one dynamic cannot exist without the other… pleasure/pain , love/hate, etc… all must have a counterbalance to be experienced correctly.

Azure Eyed... The Dark Decurion


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 10:19 am:
But is it the same emotion or opposite emotions?

brandygirasol 55T
9437 posts
5/3/2022 3:40 am

True however if there is too much pain there is no pleasure...😥😥😥


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 10:19 am:
Pain can overwhelm pleasure, but isn't the opposite true?

looking4fat 72T

5/3/2022 4:25 am

i have experienced plenty of pleasure without pain. So, no. i do not agree with that statement. In fact, most of the pleasure i have had in life involved no physical OR mental pain. (Nowadays, i do enjoy some mild testicle torture. So, that has changed a bit.)

Let's face it the Marquis was a Sick individual. If he had not been rich and an aristocrat, we would never have heard of him. And any writings that he did would have moldered away in a dank, rat filled basement. But, for him, the statement was probably true.

On a slightly different subject; most funny jokes DO involve some sort of pain. Someone gets hurt, or humiliated , or shown to be a fool. (Often it is the joke teller himself.) That is why it is SO difficult to be a Comedian or a Comedy Writer these days. Some one is always getting their "feelings" hurt. And rather than thinking, "It is JUST a joke, real people don't think that." They go to the ACLU and/or a lawyer.

My "gurl name" is Kate Coxuker. It is who i am and what i do.


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 10:21 am:
He was definitely a sick man in the mind.

hardtop4you 65M

5/3/2022 6:27 am

To the true masochist there is no pain . .
No pain greater than their deep need to
please.
Their pleasure is not of the flesh but in
pleasing and they will walk through
hell itself to hear two words . . Good girl.


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 10:24 am:
Somehow, I don't think de Sade came across too many true masochists with the woman he tortured.

brandygirasol 55T
9437 posts
5/3/2022 7:12 am

    Quoting hardtop4you:
    To the true masochist there is no pain . .
    No pain greater than their deep need to
    please.
    Their pleasure is not of the flesh but in
    pleasing and they will walk through
    hell itself to hear two words . . Good girl.
Well Sir I must admit you make a very good point... 💋


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 10:26 am:
Even a true masochist feels physical pain, they just get enjoyment from it in the end. After the crying and screaming. Even the aftermath, the days of pain while recovering are enjoyable to them, but they still feel the effects.

drmgirl622 68F  
26178 posts
5/3/2022 7:20 am

I believe they are two different things until they're not.


rondiri replies on 5/3/2022 1:27 pm:
Now that is a pretty good explanation. Not opposite emotions, not the same emotion, but parallel emotions that sometimes intertwine


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