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rondiri 65M
7306 posts
2/14/2024 10:57 am

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Variations


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rondiri 65M
11182 posts
2/14/2024 10:58 am

In the BDSM Lifestyle, there are all sorts of variations. There always has been, and there always will be.
Variations range from what protocols to use, which of the submissive positions for the submissive to use in the dynamic, or all of them, which kinks to include in the dynamic and as the lifestyle evolved, which type of submissive to be, as well as which type of Dominant to be.
I don’t for one second believe that every Dominant of the distant past used the exact same methods, protocols and attitude as every other Dominant of the era.
There are so many approaches to take to building a dynamic. In some ways it makes it more difficult to find a partner. But in the end, when you can tailor the dynamic to you likes and dislikes, picking and choosing what you WANT included, it makes for a happier dynamic, in my opinion. And in the end, BOTH partners should be happy with how the dynamic works.
Variation from what others do, is not a bad thing for the lifestyle, as long as the basics are followed:
The Four Pillars
Safety
Consent
What kinks, protocols and methods that are used don’t have to be replicated over and over by each set of partners for a successful dynamic.
No two people are exactly the same. Physically, emotionally, intellectually, we are all different. And we all have our own ideas and interpretations of what BDSM is to us.
As long as others are being safe, sane, using consent, know the risks and are happy, their way is the way for them to live.
So if another’s submissive doesn’t have their eyes lowered, it’s NOT a big deal.
If another’s submissive doesn’t have to be spoken to speak, it’s NOT a big deal.
If another’s submissive doesn’t kneel the way you trained your slave, it’s NOT a big deal.
Another’s submissive doesn’t answer to your requirements. AND there may be circumstances that require the variation.
Not everyone has the same abilities, finances, time or tastes. Accept it.
Save your complaints for the nonuse of the Four Pillars. The lack of safety concerns. Or the lack of Consent. THOSE are the parts of the Lifestyle that should not be varied from.
© 2/14/24 Ronald Dirienzo


brandygirasol 55T
9434 posts
2/14/2024 12:48 pm

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rondiri replies on 2/15/2024 7:50 am:

Peter8xxx 65M
606 posts
2/14/2024 8:22 pm

You write, write and write.....
There is no rule and definition of BDSM!
There are hundreds of ways to interpret BDSM!
-Fundamentalists BDSM
-Interaction
-money/status/position
-Games/Adventure
-Openly expressed desires in connection with BDSM
-Domination and slavery
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Every blog written is individual and different
Every individual has different ideas!

Since I don't want to run my own blog, I'll just write my opinion in your blog, you seem to be an expert!
BDSM is not sexuality? Mass fucking has nothing to do with BDSM?
What are you trying to explain here? I mean in all this chaos what do you want to say???
People are ranting about old, but WEHN is supposed to represent old? A dying species or interaction?
You can't really be serious about dependency! You can't really be serious about brainfucking!
You can't really claim to think someone is great and not like them!
BDSM is feudalism that is dying! A game of the rich who can buy anything!
When I say I'm anal (feminine) fixated it's the truth, I don't need lies! When I say adventure it is the truth!
What do you want to protect, what privileges do you want to protect?
Don't tell me I don't understand! I don't want to understand it!
Many women express special wishes, explicitly, and not all of them are fakes!
What I write is an opinion, the opinion that bdsm has become folklore and not a southern mentality!
There were also other privileges in "earlier times", there were rulers, kings and despots, BDSM IS NOT A STATUS! It can be an alternative way of life!
If I want something today I need a counterpart!
The rules are determined by the participants!
Life writes its own laws anyway, sooner or later everyone knows whether they are a pot or a lid! Unfortunately too late for some! BDSM takes place every day!
But there are "specialists" ....
Greetings from a Vanilla!
Can I be proud to be a Vanilla???


Artschoolgrad 47M
8730 posts
2/15/2024 6:14 am

among other things, this makes me realize i have never been in the presence of "another's submissive"

hmm...


rondiri replies on 2/15/2024 7:53 am:

rondiri 65M
11182 posts
2/15/2024 7:53 am

    Quoting Peter8xxx:
    You write, write and write.....
    There is no rule and definition of BDSM!
    There are hundreds of ways to interpret BDSM!
    -Fundamentalists BDSM
    -Interaction
    -money/status/position
    -Games/Adventure
    -Openly expressed desires in connection with BDSM
    -Domination and slavery
    -
    -
    -
    -
    Every blog written is individual and different
    Every individual has different ideas!

    Since I don't want to run my own blog, I'll just write my opinion in your blog, you seem to be an expert!
    BDSM is not sexuality? Mass fucking has nothing to do with BDSM?
    What are you trying to explain here? I mean in all this chaos what do you want to say???
    People are ranting about old, but WEHN is supposed to represent old? A dying species or interaction?
    You can't really be serious about dependency! You can't really be serious about brainfucking!
    You can't really claim to think someone is great and not like them!
    BDSM is feudalism that is dying! A game of the rich who can buy anything!
    When I say I'm anal (feminine) fixated it's the truth, I don't need lies! When I say adventure it is the truth!
    What do you want to protect, what privileges do you want to protect?
    Don't tell me I don't understand! I don't want to understand it!
    Many women express special wishes, explicitly, and not all of them are fakes!
    What I write is an opinion, the opinion that bdsm has become folklore and not a southern mentality!
    There were also other privileges in "earlier times", there were rulers, kings and despots, BDSM IS NOT A STATUS! It can be an alternative way of life!
    If I want something today I need a counterpart!
    The rules are determined by the participants!
    Life writes its own laws anyway, sooner or later everyone knows whether they are a pot or a lid! Unfortunately too late for some! BDSM takes place every day!
    But there are "specialists" ....
    Greetings from a Vanilla!
    Can I be proud to be a Vanilla???
Since you are vanilla, I understand why you have no clue to what I'm talking about. Don't want to understand? I won't bother explaining what everyone else DOES understand.


Peter8xxx 65M
606 posts
2/15/2024 3:27 pm

    Quoting rondiri:
    Since you are vanilla, I understand why you have no clue to what I'm talking about. Don't want to understand? I won't bother explaining what everyone else DOES understand.
Everyone else? You are very brave, don't let yourself be provoked! Promote mental illness, exploit unstable personalities and explain how to "protect" yourself! Then when "vanillas" ask questions, label them as incompetent!
I think BDSM is a protective cloak for perversion! Talking to individuals does not bring convincing results, they are individual opinions! It's a game for "perverts" desires and good business!
The questions I ask myself are not new, I have also read a lot of literature on this subject but there is NO result! It annoys me when supposed experts pour out their wisdom here and simply label those who move outside the "rules" as incompetent! So to speak "experienced" Kombatants have the audacity to present their "wisdom" as the only correct one!
This here on Alt is also not a closed society and nobody bothers to explain to newcomers what BDSM actually is!!!
Reading "This stupid vanilla has no idea" is simply no fun!
I want explanations WHY something happens (yes I read the individual stories too)!
It's also right to be careful!
It is wrong to tell EVERYONE that ONLY the "TRUE" masters are right!
This is not a monopoly that only the privileged are entitled to!


rydermantel 69M
25420 posts
2/16/2024 12:06 am

    Quoting Artschoolgrad:
    among other things, this makes me realize i have never been in the presence of "another's submissive"

    hmm...
It's 3 am. Gotta read this when the sun rises.


rondiri 65M
11182 posts
2/16/2024 7:20 am

    Quoting Peter8xxx:
    Everyone else? You are very brave, don't let yourself be provoked! Promote mental illness, exploit unstable personalities and explain how to "protect" yourself! Then when "vanillas" ask questions, label them as incompetent!
    I think BDSM is a protective cloak for perversion! Talking to individuals does not bring convincing results, they are individual opinions! It's a game for "perverts" desires and good business!
    The questions I ask myself are not new, I have also read a lot of literature on this subject but there is NO result! It annoys me when supposed experts pour out their wisdom here and simply label those who move outside the "rules" as incompetent! So to speak "experienced" Kombatants have the audacity to present their "wisdom" as the only correct one!
    This here on Alt is also not a closed society and nobody bothers to explain to newcomers what BDSM actually is!!!
    Reading "This stupid vanilla has no idea" is simply no fun!
    I want explanations WHY something happens (yes I read the individual stories too)!
    It's also right to be careful!
    It is wrong to tell EVERYONE that ONLY the "TRUE" masters are right!
    This is not a monopoly that only the privileged are entitled to!
I've never claimed to be a TRUE Master.
I've never claimed that anyone should listen ONLY to me.
I always tell people to read as many opinions as they can and look for commonalities in the writing.
By "Everyone else" I am referring to the 14 Facebook group, Alt readers and FetLife readers that see and appreciate my posts without the attitude you seem to be full of.
I'll take the majority response over your inane ranting.


Peter8xxx 65M
606 posts
2/16/2024 7:21 pm

    Quoting rydermantel:
    It's 3 am. Gotta read this when the sun rises.
It's not going to get any better! Old things are dying out!
BDSM has become a mass product, a product of sentimentality or a game of money and rich people, status thinking and expression! There is a BDSM-themed meeting or venue in almost every city! There are fairs that sell all kinds of things with this name or in this sense! Of course BDSM is dangerous, even children imitate it! And they will never know what it is!
I maintain that it is simply kink and depends on the purse!

"de Sade was a French author and nobleman from the House of Sade. He became famous for his violent pornographic novels, most of which he wrote during decades spent in prisons and insane asylums." (Google)

Yes, and then there are the "masters" who have taken up his legacy!!!
rydermantel How about you inform yourself first before you keep pooping stupid questions


Peter8xxx 65M
606 posts
2/16/2024 8:03 pm

"Four supposed men of honor hold 42 women and boys captive as sexual slaves. The orgies and perversions that the libertines indulge in unobserved are described in detail in the novel "The 120 Days of Sodom".
Marquis de Sade wrote the book in prison, where he often spent time because of his debauched sex orgies and sadistic books.
-Whether "The 120 Days of Sodom", "Justine" or one of his other books: De Sade's fame is based on his cruel sexual acts. Nothing has changed in this respect. In biographies and reception histories in recent years, he continues to be described as a pervert, a demon and a monster. The only difference is that his books used to be censored, but today they are classics of erotic literature.
-As an academic, Reinhard focuses on the question of evil against the social backdrop of the Ancien Régime, the epitome of decadence par excellence."

Who can seriously think of considering THAT as a lifestyle?
The methods of torture have certainly evolved since then!
De Sade described it, cruelty has certainly been around MUCH longer!


rondiri 65M
11182 posts
2/17/2024 9:01 am

    Quoting Peter8xxx:
    "Four supposed men of honor hold 42 women and boys captive as sexual slaves. The orgies and perversions that the libertines indulge in unobserved are described in detail in the novel "The 120 Days of Sodom".
    Marquis de Sade wrote the book in prison, where he often spent time because of his debauched sex orgies and sadistic books.
    -Whether "The 120 Days of Sodom", "Justine" or one of his other books: De Sade's fame is based on his cruel sexual acts. Nothing has changed in this respect. In biographies and reception histories in recent years, he continues to be described as a pervert, a demon and a monster. The only difference is that his books used to be censored, but today they are classics of erotic literature.
    -As an academic, Reinhard focuses on the question of evil against the social backdrop of the Ancien Régime, the epitome of decadence par excellence."

    Who can seriously think of considering THAT as a lifestyle?
    The methods of torture have certainly evolved since then!
    De Sade described it, cruelty has certainly been around MUCH longer!
You obviously have never heard of the words Safe, Sane and Consensual applied to the BDSM Lifestyle.
They are the words that comprise the BASIC premise for everyone in the Lifestyle. You only see those that ignore those words. They are not part of the Lifestyle, they are predators and fakes, they are shunned and called abusers and criminals.



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