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rosaenaluin 65F
10164 posts
5/4/2023 4:02 am
Remembering day, 2e WW


4 May, we in Holland remember all the people who died, in the 2 WW.

Now, with all the struggle/ wars going on, some people also remember ALL the victums,
of ANY WAR, ANYWHERE.

I really appreciate that.

The whole day long, there are radio en tv programs going on.
People come together, to listen to stories about their survival in those horrible years.

I listen to the storys.
I only think, this should happen, all year round, once a month or something like that.

Those who survived that horrible war, and those death camps, slowly die....
And, with them, their personal stories....

And, tomorrow,
"we" are going to celebrate the end of the 2e WW.
With a lot of music, and, again, here, a lot of public drunks!

Puking in peoples gardens.... Out of controle... 😝🤔😡
Disgusting.

rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 4:05 am

It is a special day, of remembering...


likeithot19 62M
6112 posts
5/4/2023 4:36 am

Soldiers are the victims


funtime_142 69M

5/4/2023 4:37 am

Unfortunately, it is of far too little use to think about them, the people have stayed the same and not a bit smarter!

Greetings Master Remi


tamtoserve 65F
118 posts
5/4/2023 5:03 am

I always remember this
Remembering: They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them.


brandygirasol 55T
9437 posts
5/4/2023 5:07 am

World War clouds are gathering once again I fear...☠️☠️☠️...😥


RobertBishop 66M  
2151 posts
5/4/2023 6:29 am

The Dutch suffered mightily under cruel German occupation. Deportations, forced labor, executions, terror and starvation were a part of their daily lives for five long years.
We should remember the dead and honor those who gave their lives to liberate all of Europe from the degenerate ideology that caused so much death and suffering.


accent11 64M
56 posts
5/4/2023 6:35 am

Knew a veteran who was part of liberating group in Netherlands the family he got to know sent him gifts to Canada for the rest of his life. They were so appreciative


accent11 64M
56 posts
5/4/2023 6:36 am

Netherlands sends a million tulips to Canada every year


drmgirl622 68F  
26159 posts
5/4/2023 6:56 am

A wonderful day of remembrance.....


rydermantel 69M
25778 posts
5/4/2023 7:34 am

    Quoting funtime_142:
    Unfortunately, it is of far too little use to think about them, the people have stayed the same and not a bit smarter!

    Greetings Master Remi
Unfortunately history seems to teach us nothing.


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:42 pm

ryder,
I think it is all a matter of too much testosterone and too big a ego, in most cases...


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:43 pm

like ,
I would say, soldiers are the victims, too!


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:44 pm

Master Remi

What a doomsday thought.....


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:45 pm

tamtos
That is beautiful, thank you.


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:46 pm

brandy,
it is allready, in "our' backyard.......


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:50 pm

Robert,
Thank you,

I did read some stuff about the NSB people, who worked together with the Nazis.... Some where even worst then the waffen SS.... just ordinary dutch people.... ýour' neighbours, so to speak.... scary shit!

There can be a hitler in all of us...... there just have to be the "right" triggers.
lack of a moral compass.. ethical awareness....


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:50 pm

accent,
i can inmaging that!


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 1:51 pm

accent,
They do?
i did not know that.


RobertBishop 66M  
2151 posts
5/4/2023 4:33 pm

Yes, there were collaborators and even Waffen SS companies recruited from occupied territories.
Forcing people to choose between betrayal of their neighbors/principles and execution or starvation is cruel in and of itself. Sometimes, there are only bad choices and worse choices.


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 11:46 pm

What i read, was people, who went into the NSB organisation, freely and far before the war ....like in 1936.....
There was no pressure to collaborate with the nazies, in those days... yet....
Farmers, mayors, lawyers......

Thinking this was the best solution, for every one....
I agree, bad or worse choices....
That left a lot of people in such a mental bad state...so much pain....


rosaenaluin 65F
11073 posts
5/4/2023 11:57 pm

drmgirl,
Yes, to me, it is a very powerfull thing to do.

Not just 2 minutes, but during the whole day......

Listen to the stories, from those who survived that horror.
And, their children, too, who are traumatised most of the time, too.

By the silence, or the anger, the nightmares, the trauma of their parents, aunts, grand parents....



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